Could someone post the link to part 2 please? It doesn't come up on the iPhone by viewing part 1 from the link on this page. And I don't know the actual title of the video so as to view it on the YouTube app. Thanks!
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Interesting video "ex jw elders meeting"
by yourmomma inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi7az1ahhda&feature=mfu_in_order&list=ul.
this is a long series.
im finding more and more that jw's are so illequiped for debate, that they cant even make coherent arguments.
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Ban Higher Education = Witnesses have a HUGE number of cleaners and Window washers?
by Witness 007 inevery cong.
i ever went to in australia had a high number of 1. window cleaners.
2.general cleaners.
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LOL @ steve2!! But it's true!
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Interesting video "ex jw elders meeting"
by yourmomma inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi7az1ahhda&feature=mfu_in_order&list=ul.
this is a long series.
im finding more and more that jw's are so illequiped for debate, that they cant even make coherent arguments.
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Bookmarked
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How about Scramble with Friends?? (Oh yes, I do play Words with Friends too!)
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My Experience Growing Up in the Watchtower
by Eiben Scrood ini thought i'd relate my experience here.
can others relate to it?
does it sound familiar?.
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Awesome job Eiben Scrood! I really enjoyed your story so far and look forward to the rest.
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He's Trying to get me to come back to the fold...by admitting the faults of the Watchtower
by PYRAMIDSCHEME inmy firend (who is an elder) recently sent the email below trying to get me to come back.
he freely admits the faults of the wt and even goes on to say that even if they did not have gods holy spirit, he felt they would still have gods blessing as the one true religion.
i thought i would get your thoughts on this as it really is (sadly) delusional.
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I read letters like that and continue to be amazed how JWs like him believe this crap. Especially when the GB at first credits Jehovah with having blessed them with understanding, and then in the future change their teachings, yet again, and then claim it was them who were over zealous in reaching a conclusion.
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Circuit Leasing selling on JW.ORG ????
by yknot inso i was poking around jw.org a lil recently...... noticed this advertisement was still present in the 'privileged' section (ie you gotta have login access).
this was posted on jw.org a little over a year ago (as shown in pic) but since it is still viewable......figured it is fair-game for jwn fodder.
thoughts?????.
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LOL @ sooner7nc!! That response is classic and awesome all at the same time!! LMBO
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I don't believe the Bible is Inspired of god - Why do you / don't you?
by cantleave inmany of you may know that i was brought up a witness and stayed in until the age of 42, even reaching the dizzy heights of being a congregation elder.
i was unusual in that, even as a witness i studied to degree level, on a part time basis, sponsored by my employer.
my first was in chemistry and my masters is in business administration.
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As far as the topic of the thread, I'm still somewhat in the stages of "waking" up.
I however no longer feel that the Bible is either inspired or the book of God.
When I sit and compare the stories in the Hebrew testament to fairytales and fables that I learned as a child, they are really not that different. If I believe one, then I might as well believe the other. If I don't believe one, well.................. You get the point.
Once the walls came down, it was hard to believe anything else in the Bible. I agree about it containing things that can benefit people in their lives, but that's as far as it goes. It's no longer any different than listening to Dr. Phil.
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I don't believe the Bible is Inspired of god - Why do you / don't you?
by cantleave inmany of you may know that i was brought up a witness and stayed in until the age of 42, even reaching the dizzy heights of being a congregation elder.
i was unusual in that, even as a witness i studied to degree level, on a part time basis, sponsored by my employer.
my first was in chemistry and my masters is in business administration.
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In page 2, Ucantnome said, Sometimes I find it odd that people who have reached out and become elders because they believed they were ones who could teach, for many years taught that God existed and how he should be served including disfellowshipping people who saw Christianity in a different way than they taught, after a short period of time ridicule the God they served.
I haven't read ahead yet so I'm not sure if someone commented on this already. But I have a simple answer for this.
In one word - education. I'll offer an example and hope you understand its relation to your comment above.
In America there is a rapper/producer by the name of Sean "Pdiddy" Combs. He has a clothing line.
Suppose for a moment you were really into buying his clothing. It's ALL you ever bought. One day you get confirmed news that all his clothing is made by little children in a sweat shop, which is something you absolutely detest. You decide from that moment on that you can no longer and will not any longer support his business in this regard.
Why would you do that? Again, education. You did something before because you weren't fully informed. But once you became aware of what was really happening, you changed your mind/belief.
Well those that were at one time elders or what have you, and who now as you say "ridicule" God, are informed. They have made an educated decision. It shouldn't be a surprise, just as it shouldn't be a surprise that you can change your own mind on things after being educated.
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edited: I see others commented on it. LOL Oh well.
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How Many Out There Have to Hide or Be Stealthy When They Visit This Site? I know I do.
by PaintedToeNail ini cannot look at this site freely, it would make my hubby and son very upset.
i have to hide what i'm looking at, or try to view this page very late or very early in the morning.
hubby has taken to getting up at 11:30pm or later, to see what i'm doing on the computer.
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LOL @ DaCheech!!